tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post7342868570937906471..comments2024-03-26T14:29:25.921-06:00Comments on To The Remnant: Prophets, Part 5: Crying in the WildernessAdrian Larsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17173995703995901609noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-70097594578123203302018-02-26T08:21:42.026-07:002018-02-26T08:21:42.026-07:00Adrian, I had this saved from several months ago t...Adrian, I had this saved from several months ago to read. Just read it this morning. Until I got to the name of this rabble rouser, I thought you were talking about Denver!Maggie Avritnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-43844750147104213432015-01-30T21:18:06.027-07:002015-01-30T21:18:06.027-07:00Or "Generic Authorities"Or "Generic Authorities"Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18157207426274845984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-67922112163501705542015-01-20T12:56:57.306-07:002015-01-20T12:56:57.306-07:00We must receive our own personal witness that each...We must receive our own personal witness that each and every doctrine, commandment, principle, and ordinance is true by the power of the Holy Ghost. It is our responsibility to live such that the Holy Ghost can confirm to our souls individually that these things are true. "Never assume anything about anything" is one of my axioms that I live by. Only by the power of the Holy Ghost can we know, from God and no one else, that anything is true. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-67322692185982159712015-01-20T07:19:02.600-07:002015-01-20T07:19:02.600-07:00Holly,
Thank you for respecting freedom to choose...Holly, <br />Thank you for respecting freedom to choose, but I do not think comparing Adrian to Nehor is fair. Adrian is showing us we need to repent of our idol worship and unbelief (like that President Monson is more than a man, or infallible). This isn't anything like Nehor. Nehor preached that repentance was unnecessary and executed Gideon. <br />How is that comparison even viable?<br />Adrian is teaching and trying to help everyone come to Christ and realize we should only follow truth that leads us to Him. Natalinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-29255812495248860622015-01-20T03:11:55.712-07:002015-01-20T03:11:55.712-07:00Kathryn, duo you have transcripts from the "W...Kathryn, duo you have transcripts from the "What is Zion" lectures? Would love to read. Could you email me: Christian.Hagglund@gmail.comChristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17472278874852515384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-64440517483246880882015-01-19T21:27:41.708-07:002015-01-19T21:27:41.708-07:00Kathryn, thank you for the thought and time you pu...Kathryn, thank you for the thought and time you put into your response. You've given me much to ponder.Brent Hansennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-49656083505110066582015-01-19T18:31:21.880-07:002015-01-19T18:31:21.880-07:00Nope, not associated with the Remnant Church at al...Nope, not associated with the Remnant Church at all. And no relation to Frederick N. Larsen. But funny coincidence! Thanks for checking.Adrian Larsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173995703995901609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-70565371055534278522015-01-19T18:25:04.130-07:002015-01-19T18:25:04.130-07:00Are you associated with the Remnant Church of Jesu...Are you associated with the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? <br /><br />The President/Prophet of that church is Frederick N. Larsen (any relation?)<br /><br />http://www.theremnantchurch.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-6843175212846720462015-01-19T06:02:02.640-07:002015-01-19T06:02:02.640-07:00Isn't it time we start referring to General Au...Isn't it time we start referring to General Authorities as the Central Authorities?Motis B. Totishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12618647759686470782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-79810688585730534432015-01-19T03:20:33.892-07:002015-01-19T03:20:33.892-07:00Kathryn, your experience sounds like mine, I'...Kathryn, your experience sounds like mine, I'm also struggling to make sure I'm not deceived, I prayed for truth then received a lot more than I bargained for but sometimes it's hard to know exactly what is true and what is not. I've come to the conclusion that you have to turn to the Lord and keep on going. I haven't got to the right place yet though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-32204078595592219592015-01-19T00:10:32.538-07:002015-01-19T00:10:32.538-07:00Brent Hansen (Continuation of comment)
You ask.....Brent Hansen (Continuation of comment)<br /><br />You ask...”is the Church, as a whole, closer to becoming Zion today than it was 20 years ago, or is it further away?”<br /><br />This Zion lecture was given 43 years ago... and if there was not one in ten thousand members of the Church prepare to be caught up to meet Christ then... what does it look like today?<br /><br />As a child, I remember talks on Zion being given in Conference and from the pulpit. Discussions of receiving ones Calling and Election were quite common. Do we hear these subjects addressed in Conference, or from the pulpit today? (If it’s not in the Ensign, it doesn’t seem to make it’s way to the pulpit.)<br /><br />So, in answer to your question...”No”. As a Church body, I think we are further away from Zion than ever before, if one of the criteria is to be able to be in the presence of the Lord during this lifetime. The entire Second Comforter issue has not been taught in years and seems to be a subject which is off limits to the masses. <br /><br />2. You ask how I imagine being candidates for Zion will be “plucked out.<br /><br />“... and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I shall bring you to Zion.” Jeremiah 3:14. <br /><br />“No man can receive the Holy Ghost without receiving revelations. The Holy Ghost is a revelator.” (TPJS,p.328)<br /><br />If the above statement and scripture is true, and I believe they are, then being a Bishop, Stake President, Seventy, or RS president does not qualify you for being called to establish Zion. Only God knows our hearts and our preparation. Of course, that doesn’t mean that men or women holding these positions can not qualify by the standards required. But it’s comforting to know that any man or woman can qualify without being a member of the elite It gives me great hope.<br /><br />How will those who quality will be selected? I do not know but it will certainly be an individual calling. I personally believe it will come by way of personal revelation. However, when the time comes, what ever process is used, I’m sure the individual will know. In spite of what some believe, it will not come from Salt Lake because there is no way they can make and error-free summons since they cannot see into the hearts of men.<br /><br />Along with the D&C 105 recipe, and receiving the Second Comforter, there is a lot to be accomplished. From what I’m witnessing, there is a growing number of individuals who are anxiously engaged in preparing themselves for Zion and not depending upon a blanket “Call Out” from Salt Lake. What a wonderful time to be alive and rub shoulders with such a committed group of individuals. With the support and encouragement of these kindred spirits, we should have great hope!<br /><br /> Kathrynhttp://webpressutah.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-38711719185262293742015-01-19T00:06:22.579-07:002015-01-19T00:06:22.579-07:00Hi Brent Hanson (I have to answer your question i...Hi Brent Hanson (I have to answer your question in two comment sections because of the comment character limitations.)<br /><br />Before I answer the questions you ask me, I would like to share this information.<br /><br />During the school years of 1972-1973, A lecture series was present at BYU on Zion. Over the course of 5 weeks, there were 5 LDS scholars who contributed to this sequence: Hugh Nibley, Rodney Turner, Hyrum L. Andrus, H, Verlan Andersen and Lael Woodbury.<br /><br />These quotes were in the lecture Zion-Ancient and Modern by Hyrum L. Andrus, BYU religion teacher and author of many LDS books. <br /><br />“It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God, and to know that we may converse with Him as one man conversed with another.” (TPJS, p.345)<br /><br />“Zion is the defined as the pure in heart,” but this statement needs to be placed in proper context. The “pure in heart” are those who are sanctified and who received the blessings of the sanctified--the blessings of the Second Comforter. Thus, Zion consists of a body of people who have embraced the gospel, have been regenerated by its divine spiritual powers, and have in this way become pure in heart to the degree that they can see God, that is, received the blessings that related to the Second Comforter.”<br /><br />“This means that we still have a distance to go to prepare a Zion-people for the Second Coming of Christ, for Zion is a group of people who are worthy to enjoy, personally, directly, and immediately, the presence and communion of Christ on the spiritual plane of the Second Comforter. That is one of the basic concepts of Zion taught in the scriptures.”<br /> <br />“Sometimes we entertain the idea that if Christ were to come today, we would be caught up to meet him in the cloud. But there is not one in ten thousand members of the Church prepared to be caught up to meet Christ.”<br /><br />“Only Zion will be caught up, not a gentile-oriented church.” (Hyrum L Andrus, Zion--Ancient and Modern-What Is Zion lecture series) <br /><br />“Zion is the Pure in heart, The pure in heart not merely the pure in appearance. It is not a society or religion or forms of observance, of pious gestures and precious mannerisms: it is strictly a condition of the heart.” Hugh Nibley- What is Zion-What is Zion lecture series)<br /><br />You ask...”is the Church, as a whole, closer to becoming Zion today than it was 20 years ago, or is it further away?”<br /><br />This Zion lecture was given 43 years ago... and if there was not one in ten thousand members of the Church prepare to be caught up to meet Christ then... what does it look like today?<br /><br />As a child, I remember talks on Zion being given in Conference and from the pulpit. Discussions of receiving ones Calling and Election were quite common. Do we hear these subjects addressed in Conference, or from the pulpit today? (If it’s not in the Ensign, it doesn’t seem to make it’s way to the pulpit.)<br /><br />So, in answer to your question...”No”. As a Church body, I think we are further away from Zion than ever before, if one of the criteria is to be able to be in the presence of the Lord during this life time. The entire Second Comforter issue has not been taught in years and seems to be a subject which is off limits to the masses. <br /><br />To be continued: <br /><br />Kathrynhttp://webpressutah.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-76049175486975570492015-01-18T17:05:41.675-07:002015-01-18T17:05:41.675-07:00First to Adrian, I'm sorry for this tangent. I...First to Adrian, I'm sorry for this tangent. I'm not wanting to deter anyone from the original blog message as it is very important to understand what a prophet is and what that role is meant to do. Although, I'm worried that people will continue to look to a strong man either in the church or out. No one is perfect and the teacher is no better than the learner.<br /><br />Christian, thanks for the reply. In my search for the truth of this matter I have also found it difficult to find accurate and non-tampered or altered information. Everything from poor memory recollection to blatant re-writing of history has been apparent. I find it important to note that people can be manipulated into believing something they witnessed happened differently than actual events as well as simple poor memory recollection. This phenomena gets worse when there is a lengthy time from the actual event to the recording of said event but is an issue even minutes after the event. There is a plethora of research on the subject. Here is a short video explaining one such event and tons more are out there if you are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh6WTpD3Ytw <br /><br />I have taken the following stance when it comes to all early church history or any history for that matter. I don't know what to think...and I get quite frustrated by all the confusion. Without talking to the original person I feel doomed to never be 100% accurate.<br /><br />However, I try to evaluate each piece of evidence individually as well as look at the big picture and try to understand every point of view then make a choice based on my findings. Then I take it to The Lord for confirmation. Sometimes I get told I'm wrong or no answer at all but after continued research I find more evidence that proves my original theory wrong or supports it further. In the case of polygamy I believe the book(s) I linked too to be the most correct on the subject and have had that repeatedly confirmed to me. I do not believe JS every practice polygamy and we have ample scriptural references to align to that thought. Jacob 2: 27-30 for example. Some people interpret 30 differently than I do I guess. I take it as.... if God will raise up seed unto himself (meaning His Church, the ones that follow him) He will command them...which is what he just did in verse 27. So those who are His seed He will command to follow Him and have but one wife, otherwise they (non-followers) will hearken unto these words and enter into abomination of multiple wives and such. As for D&C 132 I'd point you to the before mentioned book and you can make the call of its truthfulness. I also have found the original D&C 101 1835 edition to be enlightening. <br /><br />I hope I am not coming across as confrontational or as a know it all. I have spend a lot of time researching this subject and when I started was actually on the other side of the fence only to have my mind changed over the years. I feel very strongly that we all need to do our own research and most importantly seek the confirmation from the Spirit on ALL subjects. JS never wanted us to blindly follow. Our personal relationship with the Holy Ghost is going to be invaluable in these last days.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10671444140820205683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-60171704889038065272015-01-18T07:31:38.588-07:002015-01-18T07:31:38.588-07:00Kathryn, you wrote, "I believe that Zion will...Kathryn, you wrote, "I believe that Zion will be formed by individuals, plucked from the group."<br /><br />What is your understanding of what you wrote, what does that "plucking" look like to you? How do you imagine that could occur?<br /><br />I only ask because I feel that I've been "plucked" already. Unfavorable circumstances in my life lead to questions. Questions led to more questions when the original ones couldn't be answered from those within the church. Then little by little I was led by a thin thread to meet people like Adrian.<br /><br />I would have never imagined in a million years this would have happened how it has.<br /><br />An I qualified to be part of Zion? No, probably not yet, but I'm working on it. In that process my testimony of the Restoration, Book of Mormon, and the Prophet Joseph Smith have increased ten fold.<br /><br />I'm not sure how the Lord is going to pluck people, but I do know that I am grateful for the path He has put me on. For the first time over 22 years I'm actually headed somewhere instead of going in circles like the children of Israel.<br /><br />I'd ask you this, is the church as a whole closer to becoming Zion today than it was 20 years ago, or is it further away?Brent Hansennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-75540255464402032812015-01-18T00:02:46.974-07:002015-01-18T00:02:46.974-07:00Kevin, have you read all of "Joseph fought po...Kevin, have you read all of "Joseph fought polygamy"? The message is in total contradiction with many scholars (including the church itself, of course). How do you choose one scholarly text over another? Since the source documents aren't readily available to me, it's difficult to know what ous actually true. Any thoughts? Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17472278874852515384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-10174222185283453192015-01-17T23:59:38.841-07:002015-01-17T23:59:38.841-07:00One reason to believe that we are different is the...One reason to believe that we are different is the doctrine "this dispensation will not go amiss". I believe this is true, but the interpretation that aimed: this dispensation = the LDS Church is incorrect. I think that this false belief creates a subconscious resistance among LDS people to the thought that the church might have gone apostate, the "prophets" are only administrators, we are taught false doctrine and a watered down gospel where we follow this Prophet instead of soaking with the Lord through the veil.Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17472278874852515384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-10164212341709097782015-01-17T21:05:40.274-07:002015-01-17T21:05:40.274-07:00Kathryn and anyone else that are concerned about t...Kathryn and anyone else that are concerned about the polygamy issue and Joseph Smith's connection see this link for more information. http://restorationbookstore.org/jsfp-index.htm<br /><br />As for the actual meat of Adrian's post please take Alma's charge from Alma 32:27 and exersize a particle of faith on these words. Open you hearts to belive ALL things and then pray to The Lord with very specific questions and then believe Him even if it is contrary to what you WANT to believe is true. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10671444140820205683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-55195547620964966562015-01-17T12:59:09.798-07:002015-01-17T12:59:09.798-07:00Obviously, history repeats it’s, and we are no dif...Obviously, history repeats it’s, and we are no different... even though many members of the Church think, by the very nature of the Church umbrella, we are being protected because of a living prophet that cannot lead us astray. <br /> <br />The problem seems to arise every time folks separate themselves from the masses and think they are different, special, chosen, and have a special entitlements. The Lord has told us that he is not a respecter of persons. <br /><br />Many of Peter's fellow Jews (Church) thought that God loved them more than the outsiders of the faith. When meeting with the gentile centurion Cornelius, the apostle Peter explained what God had revealed to him: "Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him."<br /><br />This tells me that anyone that has a Zion heart will be included, whether they are member of the LDS Church or not. <br /><br />Do I think we have a better chance of creating a Zion society than before? I say, “Yes.” <br /><br />Simple because we have the gift of immediate communication to make corrections to thinking and behavior. No other generation has had such opportunity for such checks and balances. It’s wonderful. <br /><br />On the other hand, there is so much communication and the sharing of ideas that one can become easily confused. There is so much “Lo here and Lo there.” <br /><br />For me, if the message does not drive me to search “Source”, (the scriptures) more diligently, believe them, and follow them, then I am suspect. Unfortunately, in some cases, the power of them has become diluted with inspirational messages, and spoon fed information that is often mixed with the precepts of men. Depending upon others for scripture interpretation, rather than going to the Lord, can be dangerous. <br /><br />I believe that Zion will be formed by individuals, plucked from the group. We must stand spiritually independent of all systems and men. The scripture: Matt 14:40-41 applies to those being selected for the establishment of Zion as well as those who will stand at the day of His coming.<br /><br /> “Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” <br /><br />When the rubber meets the road, it will be individuals selected to establish Zion not a group, no matter the claim of any group. <br /><br />D&C 105:1-6 is the recipe for Zion. It is the individual recipe for being a Zion person. Each of us individually need to ask, “How am “I” doing? For instance, how am I doing in “imparting of my substance to the poor and afflicted.” Or, do I let someone else be the steward of this responsibility? <br /><br />Any of us can be messengers of truth... as long as we drive people to the scriptures for answers, and encourage them to believe, follow, and ask the LORD if the direction they are going is His will. Anyone else that suggests otherwise should be considered suspect indeed. <br /><br />Yes, I have great hope. I see many who are becoming independent thinkers which are finding and working hard to follow the Lord’s Zion recipe, with or without being attached to any one group.<br /><br />I think we live in a wonderful age and have much support by way of the blessing of immediate communication for checks and balances. In that process, it behooves us to be good messengers.Kathrynhttp://webpressutah.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-57833684871326392882015-01-17T08:14:38.874-07:002015-01-17T08:14:38.874-07:00If there was a "like" button for erichar...If there was a "like" button for erichard's comment, I'd click on it ten times. Great point and references! Thank you!Brent Hansennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-85889143957833213572015-01-16T17:16:40.816-07:002015-01-16T17:16:40.816-07:00Holly, The scriptures do not allow members of the ...Holly, The scriptures do not allow members of the church to dictate doctrine or policy to the church leaders. <br /><br />But the scriptures do give members the right to NOT sustain the leaders and have a controversy over them.<br /><br />Why do I use the word controversy? Because that is the word the revelation uses in D&C 107:81-84 when it gives instructions for having a special trial over the President of the church or one of his counselors. Verse 83 says, "And their decision upon his head shall be an end of CONTROVERSY concerning him."<br /><br />This clearly allows LEGITIMATE controversies over the President of the church until, if it comes to such measures, such a trial settles the matter. <br /><br />But what has happened in the Lord's Gentile church is that the church leaders have pushed for the idea that the Prophet is above any controversy. The famous "Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet" talk is one of many, many examples of this type of idolatrous teaching. <br /><br />Adrian Larsen had a God-given right to claim a controversy that even implicated the church president. D&C 107:81-84 and JST Mark 9:40-48 are two clear witnesses of this principle. He was cast out of the church because the majority of the church members support the leaders in their claim to be above any legitimate controversy.<br /><br />D&C 136:31 warns the church that they would be tried "in all things" before they were led back to establish Zion in Missouri. What could "all things" include? We know it could include having to live by "every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God". <br /><br />The D&C is full of instructions the church is not living. Why are you not terrified by this? Have you not covenanted to live "the law of the gospel as found in the Doctrine and Covenants"?<br /><br />You may feel "so much love and gratitude for the prophet", but that does not mean the Lord will not try the church with a situation where they will have to live by the instructions in D&C 107:81-84 to end a controversy over the prophet in the church. <br /><br />You should also quote this part from Jacob, "O be wise, what can I say more?"erichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12279217537472159142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-69144411809499621442015-01-16T14:24:17.176-07:002015-01-16T14:24:17.176-07:00I don't know what happened to my comments, but...I don't know what happened to my comments, but really, it doesn't matter. As you said, you are my brother, Adrian. I hope you are my brother in Christ as you say. It is my fear that you are following the path of Nehor more than that of Abinadi, but it is not for me to judge. It is for me to speak what I believe is truth and follow that truth in my own life. I voice my opinions here out of love and concern, not condemnation. I feel so much love and gratitude for the prophet and other servants of the Lord. I would never want to walk in their shoes. I hate seeing them condemned for not being perfect when none of us humans are, including Joseph Smith. I will continue to send love to you and those who choose to believe on your words, Adrien, but I won't continue to read this blog or comment. I pray for you to all have peace, a deep, abiding love of the Savior, humility, ears to listen for the quiet voice of the Holy Spirit, eyes to see truth and protection from the adversary. I pray for me to have the same! In the words of Jacob, Adieu! :)Holworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676029758120267060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-28845307585705377372015-01-16T12:33:10.385-07:002015-01-16T12:33:10.385-07:00Hey Everyone,
I just wanted to reiterate the poin...Hey Everyone,<br /><br />I just wanted to reiterate the point of this post. Suppose God followed His pattern again and sent a true messenger. Would you receive or reject? <br /><br />If receive, what makes you think so? Receiving is very rare. <br /><br />If reject, where might that path lead you?<br /><br />This is the proposition we ought to be considering, discussing, pondering and praying about. As for me, I'm irrelevant. This isn't about me at all.<br /><br />Every prior generation has been good at identifying their predecessors' mistakes, while claiming they would never make the same mistakes--all while making them! Can we break this cycle? Can we really learn from past failure? Or are we destined to repeat it?<br /><br />If we learn from past failure, how might WE be different? It's not the situation that's different. We can't simply assume God would never allow us to fail. He clearly has and does allow failure--over and over. The situation is the same. WE must be different.Adrian Larsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173995703995901609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-54823890225791816082015-01-16T11:48:32.623-07:002015-01-16T11:48:32.623-07:00I'll add this:
To anyone else who has posted ...I'll add this:<br /><br />To anyone else who has posted comments I have not published, there are two possible reasons:<br /><br /><b>1. I didn't receive your comment.</b> Some have told me the comment mechanism is finicky. Nothing I can do, it's google's deal. Wish I could fix it, but I can't. The best approach if you've written something is to copy and paste it somewhere before you hit "publish." That way, if it doesn't go through, you haven't lost it and you can try again.<br /><br /><b>2. I received your comment but didn't publish it.</b> There may be various reasons for this, but they do not include simply disagreeing with me. If you've tried to post something and it was never published, you can use the "Contact Me" tool on the right side of the blog to send me a private note. I'll let you know if it never came through, or if there's another reason you don't see it here.<br /><br />In all cases, there's no reason to be unkind. I've been amazed at the abuse some are willing to hurl simply because they made a comment that wasn't published. (Holly, that's not directed at you. Yours was quite mild.)Adrian Larsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173995703995901609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-77569184638489784582015-01-16T09:31:34.819-07:002015-01-16T09:31:34.819-07:00Holly,
Huh? I'm bewildered by your comment an...Holly,<br /><br />Huh? I'm bewildered by your comment and accusation. I've published everything I've received from you. If you've made a comment I have not published, it is because it never came through. Please make it again. <br /><br />In the light of all the dissenting comments I've published, do you really think you've reached a fair conclusion about me not liking dissenting voices?Adrian Larsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173995703995901609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8665085267750808287.post-14065348610497813612015-01-16T09:25:31.661-07:002015-01-16T09:25:31.661-07:00Apparently you don't like a voice of dissensio...Apparently you don't like a voice of dissension any more than the church does as you won't publish my comments. That tells me a lot. Holworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676029758120267060noreply@blogger.com